{"id":18674,"date":"2023-01-21T07:25:14","date_gmt":"2023-01-21T12:25:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.doyonavocats.ca\/?p=18674"},"modified":"2023-01-21T07:25:14","modified_gmt":"2023-01-21T12:25:14","slug":"le-oui-dire-et-lexception-raisonnee-concernant-le-nichd-protocol-international-evidence-based-investigative-interviewing-of-children-r-c-s-s-2023-csc-1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.doyonavocats.ca\/en\/le-oui-dire-et-lexception-raisonnee-concernant-le-nichd-protocol-international-evidence-based-investigative-interviewing-of-children-r-c-s-s-2023-csc-1\/","title":{"rendered":"Le ou\u00ef-dire et l&#8217;exception raisonn\u00e9e concernant le NICHD Protocol (International Evidence-Based Investigative Interviewing of Children) : R. c. S.S., 2023 CSC 1"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>*Voir le protocol <a href=\"https:\/\/nichdprotocol.com\">ici<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/canlii.ca\/t\/jttwl\">R. c. S.S., 2023 CSC 1<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Le juge en chef \u2014 La Cour est d\u2019avis, \u00e0 la majorit\u00e9, d\u2019accueillir l\u2019appel, et ce, essentiellement <span class=\"highlighted\">pour les motifs dissidents<\/span> expos\u00e9s par le juge d\u2019appel MacPherson. Le juge Rowe rejetterait l\u2019appel, principalement pour les motifs des juges majoritaires de la Cour d\u2019appel. En cons\u00e9quence, l\u2019appel est accueilli et la d\u00e9claration de culpabilit\u00e9 est r\u00e9tablie.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/canlii.ca\/t\/jnrv3\">R. v. S.S., 2022 ONCA 305, j. MacPherson<\/a><\/p>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: justify;\">The absence of contemporaneous cross-examination is serious, but the fact that the statement was video recorded, that the complainant promised to tell the truth, and that she corrected the officer on significant details all buttress the statement\u2019s procedural reliability<\/h2>\n<div class=\"paragWrapper\">\n<p class=\"AParaNumbering\" style=\"text-align: justify;\" data-viibes-parag=\"87\" data-viibes-start=\"86\" data-viibes-end=\"85\">[<a class=\"reflex-paragAnchor\" name=\"par87\"><\/a>87] At the trial, Dr. Louise Sas was qualified to testify <span class=\"highlighted\">as an expert in child behavioural and clinical psychology, child memory, behaviours of victims of child sexual abuse, and child witnesses<\/span>. She estimated that she had been qualified as an expert in Ontario courts about two hundred times.<\/p>\n<div class=\"paragWrapper\">\n<p class=\"AParaNumbering\" style=\"text-align: justify;\" data-viibes-parag=\"88\" data-viibes-start=\"87\" data-viibes-end=\"86\">[<a class=\"reflex-paragAnchor\" name=\"par88\"><\/a>88] Based on Dr. Sas\u2019s expert report and trial testimony, the trial judge concluded:<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"CQuote\" style=\"padding-left: 40px; text-align: justify;\">[T]he interview was done <span class=\"highlighted\">in accordance with a protocol<\/span> that was discussed in some detail by Dr. Sas, at page six of her report and in her evidence before me. I will not review those points except to note that there <span class=\"highlighted\">are nine separate points.<\/span>It was Dr. Sas\u2019s opinion that the interview was conducted in accordance with the protocol and the nine points that are listed in her report, and about which she testified were adequately established.<\/p>\n<div class=\"paragWrapper\">\n<p class=\"AParaNumbering\" style=\"text-align: justify;\" data-viibes-parag=\"89\" data-viibes-start=\"88\" data-viibes-end=\"87\">[<a class=\"reflex-paragAnchor\" name=\"par89\"><\/a>89] To this I would simply add, having viewed the interview, that this conclusion <span class=\"highlighted\">is entirely reasonable<\/span>. In the context of an interview of a seven year-old girl about possible criminal sexual activity by a close relative, Officer Cunnington\u2019s structure and conduct of the interview were very impressive indeed.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"paragWrapper\">\n<div class=\"bootstrap unselectable viibes-marker-toolbox\" title=\"Paragraph tools\" data-with-parag=\"88\">\n<div class=\"dropdown dropleft\">&#8230;<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<div class=\"paragWrapper\">\n<p class=\"AParaNumbering\" style=\"text-align: justify;\" data-viibes-parag=\"93\" data-viibes-start=\"92\" data-viibes-end=\"91\">[<a class=\"reflex-paragAnchor\" name=\"par93\"><\/a>93] Further, the trial judge\u2019s reasons show that the statement and its context convincingly address procedural and substantive reliability. Procedural reliability centres on \u201cwhether the trier of fact will be in a position to rationally evaluate the evidence\u201d: <em>R. v. Khelawon<\/em>, <a class=\"reflex3-caselaw\" href=\"https:\/\/www.canlii.org\/en\/ca\/scc\/doc\/2006\/2006scc57\/2006scc57.html\">2006 SCC 57<\/a>, at para. <a class=\"reflex-parag\" href=\"https:\/\/www.canlii.org\/en\/ca\/scc\/doc\/2006\/2006scc57\/2006scc57.html#par76\">76<\/a>. The trial judge noted several factors enabling a rational evaluation, including:<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"CQuote\" style=\"padding-left: 40px; text-align: justify;\">As observed by Dr. Sas, the interview was conducted in accordance <span class=\"highlighted\">with a well-recognized protocol<\/span>.\u00a0 It was conducted in a relaxed atmosphere.\u00a0 The interviewee displayed no symptoms of concern at being interviewed.\u00a0 For the most part, open-ended questions were used.<\/p>\n<div class=\"paragWrapper\">\n<p class=\"AParaNumbering\" style=\"text-align: justify;\" data-viibes-parag=\"94\" data-viibes-start=\"93\" data-viibes-end=\"92\">[<a class=\"reflex-paragAnchor\" name=\"par94\"><\/a>94] Moreover, at the beginning of the interview the complainant promised to tell the truth. <a class=\"reflex2-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.canlii.org\/en\/ca\/laws\/stat\/rsc-1985-c-c-5\/latest\/rsc-1985-c-c-5.html#sec16.1subsec6_smooth\">Section 16.1(6)<\/a> of the <a class=\"reflex2-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.canlii.org\/en\/ca\/laws\/stat\/rsc-1985-c-c-5\/latest\/rsc-1985-c-c-5.html\"><em>Canada Evidence Act<\/em>, R.S.C. 1985, c. C-5<\/a>, requires that a person under fourteen make such a promise instead of an oath before giving evidence. The complainant was seven years-old at the time of her police statement.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"paragWrapper\">\n<p class=\"AParaNumbering\" style=\"text-align: justify;\" data-viibes-parag=\"95\" data-viibes-start=\"94\" data-viibes-end=\"93\">[<a class=\"reflex-paragAnchor\" name=\"par95\"><\/a>95] Officer Cunnington also told the complainant to correct him if he made a mistake. Dr. Sas\u2019s report says she did so on three occasions. Most notably, when describing the assault, the complainant said she was lying down and the appellant was standing. The officer repeated that the appellant was standing on the bed, but the complainant corrected him to say he was standing on the floor.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"paragWrapper\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n<p class=\"AParaNumbering\" data-viibes-parag=\"96\" data-viibes-start=\"95\" data-viibes-end=\"94\">[<a class=\"reflex-paragAnchor\" name=\"par96\"><\/a>96] In my view, all these indicia contribute to put the trier of fact in a position to rationally evaluate the evidence. <span class=\"highlighted\">The absence of contemporaneous cross-examination is serious, but the fact that the statement was video recorded, that the complainant promised to tell the truth, and that she corrected the officer on significant details all buttress the statement\u2019s procedural reliability.<\/span><\/p>\n<h2 data-viibes-parag=\"96\" data-viibes-start=\"95\" data-viibes-end=\"94\"><span class=\"highlighted\">In this case, the complainant gave a detailed description of sexual acts well beyond her development stage. She described her uncle masturbating (she called it \u201cplaying with himself\u201d), she showed the officer how long the appellant\u2019s penis was using her hands, she demonstrated how he pushed his fingers on her vagina, and described her uncle ejaculating onto her stomach: Dr. Sas\u2019s Report, at p. 9. In my view, the inherent trustworthiness of her statement is the only likely explanation for her vivid descriptions.<\/span><\/h2>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"paragWrapper\">\n<p class=\"AParaNumbering\" style=\"text-align: justify;\" data-viibes-parag=\"97\" data-viibes-start=\"96\" data-viibes-end=\"95\">[<a class=\"reflex-paragAnchor\" name=\"par97\"><\/a>97]\u00a0<span class=\"highlighted\">Substantive reliability describes a statement so reliable that it is unlikely to change under cross-examination: <\/span><em><span class=\"highlighted\">R. v. Bradshaw<\/span><\/em><span class=\"highlighted\">, <\/span><a class=\"reflex3-caselaw\" href=\"https:\/\/www.canlii.org\/en\/ca\/scc\/doc\/2017\/2017scc35\/2017scc35.html\"><span class=\"highlighted\">2017 SCC 35<\/span><\/a><span class=\"highlighted\">, at para. <\/span><a class=\"reflex-parag\" href=\"https:\/\/www.canlii.org\/en\/ca\/scc\/doc\/2017\/2017scc35\/2017scc35.html#par31\"><span class=\"highlighted\">31<\/span><\/a><span class=\"highlighted\">, or where the only likely explanation is that the statement is true: <\/span><em><span class=\"highlighted\">R. v. U. (F.J.)<\/span><\/em><span class=\"highlighted\">, <\/span><a class=\"reflex3-caselaw\" href=\"https:\/\/www.canlii.org\/en\/ca\/scc\/doc\/1995\/1995canlii74\/1995canlii74.html\"><span class=\"highlighted\">1995 CanLII 74 (SCC)<\/span><\/a><span class=\"highlighted\">, [1995] 3 S.C.R. 764, at para. <\/span><a class=\"reflex-parag\" href=\"https:\/\/www.canlii.org\/en\/ca\/scc\/doc\/1995\/1995canlii74\/1995canlii74.html#par40\"><span class=\"highlighted\">40<\/span><\/a><span class=\"highlighted\">.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"paragWrapper\">\n<p class=\"AParaNumbering\" style=\"text-align: justify;\" data-viibes-parag=\"98\" data-viibes-start=\"97\" data-viibes-end=\"96\">[<a class=\"reflex-paragAnchor\" name=\"par98\"><\/a>98] Here, the inherent trustworthiness of the statement emerges from the fact that its truth explains how the complainant was able to give such detailed descriptions of these acts. The same was true in <em>R. v. Khan<\/em>, <a class=\"reflex3-caselaw\" href=\"https:\/\/www.canlii.org\/en\/ca\/scc\/doc\/1990\/1990canlii77\/1990canlii77.html\">1990 CanLII 77 (SCC)<\/a>, [1990] 2 S.C.R. 531, where McLachlin J. (as she then was) relied on necessity and reliability to find that the trial judge could receive a three year-old\u2019s statement to her mother that she had been sexually assaulted by her doctor. Citing this court\u2019s decision in <em>Khan<\/em>, she noted that \u201cyoung children\u2026are unlikely to use their reflective powers to concoct a <a name=\"_Hlk98763456\"><\/a>deliberate untruth, and particularly one about a sexual act which in all probability is beyond their ken.\u201d As such, \u201cthe evidence of a child of tender years on such matters may bear its own special stamp of reliability\u201d: at p. 542.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"paragWrapper\">\n<p class=\"AParaNumbering\" style=\"text-align: justify;\" data-viibes-parag=\"99\" data-viibes-start=\"98\" data-viibes-end=\"97\"><span class=\"highlighted\">[<\/span><a class=\"reflex-paragAnchor\" name=\"par99\"><\/a><span class=\"highlighted\">99<\/span><span class=\"highlighted\">]\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"highlighted\">In this case, the complainant gave a detailed description of sexual acts well beyond her development stage. She described her uncle masturbating (she called it \u201cplaying with himself\u201d), she showed the officer how long the appellant\u2019s penis was using her hands, she demonstrated how he pushed his fingers on her vagina, and described her uncle ejaculating onto her stomach: Dr. Sas\u2019s Report, at p. 9. In my view, the inherent trustworthiness of her statement is the only likely explanation for her vivid descriptions.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>*Voir le protocol ici. R. c. S.S., 2023 CSC 1 Le juge en chef \u2014 La Cour est d\u2019avis, \u00e0 la majorit\u00e9, d\u2019accueillir l\u2019appel, et ce, essentiellement pour les motifs dissidents expos\u00e9s par le juge d\u2019appel MacPherson. Le juge Rowe rejetterait l\u2019appel, principalement pour les motifs des juges majoritaires de la Cour d\u2019appel. En cons\u00e9quence, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[5498,88],"yst_prominent_words":[],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.doyonavocats.ca\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/18674"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.doyonavocats.ca\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.doyonavocats.ca\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.doyonavocats.ca\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.doyonavocats.ca\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=18674"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.doyonavocats.ca\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/18674\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.doyonavocats.ca\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=18674"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.doyonavocats.ca\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=18674"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.doyonavocats.ca\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=18674"},{"taxonomy":"yst_prominent_words","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.doyonavocats.ca\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/yst_prominent_words?post=18674"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}